What punishment should a woman receive for having an illegal abortion?

Posted by admin on March 8th, 2010 and filed under abortion | 13 Comments »

Should abortion be outlawed?

If the procedure is outlawed should women who continue to have abortions be punished?

How should women who have illegal abortions be punished?

If women are not to be punished for illegal abortions how are they not responsible for allowing the abortion to be performed on their bodies?

If you are going to answer "abortions are legal" True but not an answer to the questions being asked then try to answer this: If abortion is to remain legal what is the most compelling and valid argument for doing so you can think of?
David K, Islam Is Wrong 4UK, Justice, Joyann, Emarrrro, and Divine Oubliette thank you for answering in a way that indicated you read the questions and were responding to what was being asked. I wish I could give all of you extra points although one of you will likely get 10 points for best answer..

Stephen: I agree with you but I would have preferred if you gave a reason besides your assertion why you believe it.

CIA: the question applies to all women not just those receiving public assistance.

the rest of the answers I just don’t take seriously.
Deb: good answer as well

Making it illegal is a great idea – it’s been working out so well for other countries . . . .

Legal basis for Philippine abortion ban
The act is criminalized by the Revised Penal Code of the Philippines, which was enacted in 1930 and remains in effect today. Articles 256, 258 and 259 of the Code mandate imprisonment for the woman who undergoes the abortion, as well as for any person who assists in the procedure, even if they be the woman’s parents, a physician or midwife. Article 258 further imposes a higher prison term on the woman or her parents if the abortion is undertaken "in order to conceal [the woman's] dishonor".
*Funny that making it illegal doesn’t stop women.

Abortion practices in the Philippines
One study estimated that, despite legal restrictions, in 1994 there were 400,000 abortions performed illegally in the Philippines and 80,000 hospitalizations of women for abortion-related complications. 12% of all maternal deaths in 1994 were due to unsafe abortion according to the Department of Health of the Philippines. Two-thirds of Filipino women who have abortions attempt to self-induce or seek solutions from those who practice folk medicine. [3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_Philippines
*It just endangers women’s lives making aboriton illegal.

~Pro-Choice Momma; Have had an abortion <no regrets> and I have a 13 month old daughter <no regrets>. I believe in protecting my daughter’s choice.

Abortion: There is a Consensus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsSQiazUvgo

EDIT – The constitutional right to choose abortion was a limited one. In the first trimester, the state had no power to restrict abortion; beginning with the second trimester, the state might regulate, but not prohibit, abortion; and in the third trimester, the state might prohibit abortion except when necessary for the mother’s life or health.
http://www.answers.com/topic/abortion

Natural Liberty: Rediscovering Self-Induced Abortion Methods ISBN: 0964592002 is now available on Scribd to read for free! http://www.scribd.com/doc/22321349/Natural-Liberty-Rediscovering-Self-Induced-Abortion-Methods
Besides there will always be wise women who do not need clinics to induce a miscarriage.

Murder is a legal definition, and murder requires that the death involve an individual with legal ‘personhood.’ Fetuses and embryos do not have legal ‘personhood.’ (If they did, every miscarriage would be counted in mortality rates, (and would have to be investigated legally by the coroner as an ‘unexpected death’) and every fetus would be counted in the census.)

Some of us believe that, for some people, in some situations, abortion is the better of two bad options. It’s not a "good thing" but sometimes it’s the better choice for the person most immediately involved … the pregnant woman.

Basically murder is a legal term, not a moral term.

ABORTIoN?????

Posted by admin on March 6th, 2010 and filed under abortion | 22 Comments »

ABOUT HOW MUCH WOULD AN ABORTION BE IN FLORIDA??
(I JUST TURNED 12 WEEKS YESTERDAY)

AND IF YOUR UNDER 18 DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE PARENTAL CONSENT????

IF SO DO THEY GIVE YOU A PAPER FOR YOUR PARENTS TO SIGN?
NO I HAVENT WATCHED JUNO…
AND I AM NOT GONA GIVE MY BABY UP FOR ADOPTION!!! I WOULD RATHER IT BE WITH GOD THEN WITH SOME PEOPLE I DONT EVEN KNOW!!!!!
MY BABYS FATHER. DOESNT WANT THE BABY AT ALL. HES THE ONE THAT TOLD ME TO GET AN ABORTION

wtf!?!?!?!?!
how can you say it so calmly?
your talking about killing a baby!!!
haven’t you watched Juno?
just have the baby and give it up for adoption
geeez stop being so irresponsible that’s why your suppose to have "safe" sex
goshh it has finger nails you know?
please don’t kill an innocent baby

Abortion

Posted by admin on March 5th, 2010 and filed under abortion | 25 Comments »

Angie the Anti-Theist talking briefly about my decision to have an abortion, recorded during the actual process of my at-home medical abortion-by-pill. (You can read more on this at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RU486 )

To follow things in real time or read my hatemail after the fact, go through the Twitter hashtag #livetweetingabortion or follow me @antitheistangie

You can read more about my decision and experience on my blog at http://angietheantitheist.blogspot.com

Read the real-life positive abortion stories of hundreds of other women at http://www.imnotsorry.net and http://www.45millionvoices.org/index.html

UPDATE: You can follow media on this from various sources, below.

Why I’m Having an Abortion: The Friendly Atheist http://bit.ly/aqFlzL

Choices: Angie the Anti-Theist http://bit.ly/9q6r0t

The Mark (audio interview) http://bit.ly/9GWpyj

The Frisky http://bit.ly/9jD2Je

Brief Update: Angie the Anti-Theist http://bit.ly/aknyu6

Salon http://bit.ly/bzxRza

ABC News http://bit.ly/d8PZIK

Media Circus: Angie the Anti-Theist http://bit.ly/9OW9Bv

Duration : 0:2:36

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ABORTIoN?????

Posted by admin on February 26th, 2010 and filed under abortion | No Comments »

ABOUT HOW MUCH WOULD AN ABORTION BE IN FLORIDA??
(I JUST TURNED 12 WEEKS YESTERDAY)

AND IF YOUR UNDER 18 DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE PARENTAL CONSENT????

IF SO DO THEY GIVE YOU A PAPER FOR YOUR PARENTS TO SIGN?
NO I HAVENT WATCHED JUNO…
AND I AM NOT GONA GIVE MY BABY UP FOR ADOPTION!!! I WOULD RATHER IT BE WITH GOD THEN WITH SOME PEOPLE I DONT EVEN KNOW!!!!!
MY BABYS FATHER. DOESNT WANT THE BABY AT ALL. HES THE ONE THAT TOLD ME TO GET AN ABORTION

wtf!?!?!?!?!
how can you say it so calmly?
your talking about killing a baby!!!
haven’t you watched Juno?
just have the baby and give it up for adoption
geeez stop being so irresponsible that’s why your suppose to have "safe" sex
goshh it has finger nails you know?
please don’t kill an innocent baby

Njue: No compromise on abortion

Posted by admin on February 24th, 2010 and filed under abortion | 12 Comments »

John Cardinal Njue said the catholic church will not compromise on any issue that threatens the well being of children , born or unborn. He said the church would continue to oppose abortion, early marriages and child labour. He spoke during a childrens mass at St. Marys grounds Msongari here in Nairobi.

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ABortion?????

Posted by admin on February 22nd, 2010 and filed under abortion | 18 Comments »

how dus the whole procees work?? the physical abortion..dus it hurt???

Hey. she never said she was having one, did she? get off her back. She may have just been asking an honest, inquisitive question.

ABORTIOn!!!?

Posted by admin on February 20th, 2010 and filed under abortion | 10 Comments »

I dont believ in abortion. i figure if u wanna go out n have sex then thats ur risk of being pregnant. but im trying to get my point out that its horrible.. and i know some people are probally liek ohh shut up its not a baby.. blah blah.. but i feel alot different about it.. it is a baby even from the begining..

but my question is.. in the state of ohio how far along do u have to be b4 they dont let you have one anymore.. ??

i heart breaking pics of babys like 8-12 weeks but id ont see many of then over that..
okay so ppl are jumping on me fer this question.. i didnt ask ur opition of it i jus want toknow the cut off date but since someone did meantion this and i didnt state it b4 bc this wasnt my question the cut odd date was, BUT. rape and medical problems would be a time i would condider abortion..

i jus dont think its okay to kill a baby bc u had sex n got pregnant.. rape n medical problems would be different..

I think it is around 5 months. It is crazy how far you can go and abort.

ABORTION…………………….?

Posted by admin on February 16th, 2010 and filed under abortion | 14 Comments »

When debating against abortion, what argument could you use when the opponent says illegal abortion rates will just increase and create unsafe conditions?

Agree with their first point about illegal abortion rates increasing, since if abortion was illegal then ALL abortions would be illegal. If you made something illegal that is currently mostly legal, of course the number of illegal cases of it is going to increase!

You could then say something about it shouldn’t be legal just to make things safer for the women. You could make a comparison with drugs. It’d be like saying we should legalise drugs to make it safer for the drug users (it would, as then drugs would be regulated).

ABORTION…………………….?

Posted by admin on February 14th, 2010 and filed under abortion | No Comments »

When debating against abortion, what argument could you use when the opponent says illegal abortion rates will just increase and create unsafe conditions?

Agree with their first point about illegal abortion rates increasing, since if abortion was illegal then ALL abortions would be illegal. If you made something illegal that is currently mostly legal, of course the number of illegal cases of it is going to increase!

You could then say something about it shouldn’t be legal just to make things safer for the women. You could make a comparison with drugs. It’d be like saying we should legalise drugs to make it safer for the drug users (it would, as then drugs would be regulated).

Tim Tebow and Mom Focus on Family Abortion Commercial Ad 2010 Super Bowl 44

Posted by admin on February 10th, 2010 and filed under abortion | 13 Comments »

http://www.focusonthefamily.com/

Focus On The Family

Tim Tebow and Mom Focus on Family Abortion Commercial Ad 2010 Super Bowl 44

Tim Tebow and Mom Focus on Family Abortion Commercial Ad 2010 Super Bowl 44

Tim Tebow and Mom Focus on Family Abortion Commercial Ad 2010 Super Bowl 44

Tim Tebow and Mom Focus on Family Abortion Commercial Ad 2010 Super Bowl 44

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Contorversial Super Bowl 2010 Commercial – Tim and Pam Tebow on Abortion

Tim Tebow and his mother Pam Tebow appear in this video created by Focus on the Family and aired during the 2010 Super Bowl XLIV

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