This is a video to refute the claims made by atheist Youtuber, DavidJohnWells – the Bible IS against abortion! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q12TbKGTEoM
The Bible is … The Bible is against abortion! You make a good video. Jerm 1:5 was a good quote. Also, in Luke 1:39-42 it shows that the spirit was in the child Jesus before he was born. The spirit enters a embryo at conception.
Yes – she says AMen … Yes – she says AMen because she is affirming that she agree with the ritual and the outcome… while you are reading the Christian Bible – it is not a Christian ritual – its Jewish.
to cause a miscarrying womb can only be abortion IF she was prego from the other man – otherwise – its just a sterilization.
and the woman in that ritual said amen, amen
in numbers 5:22 kjv and said amen, let it be in niv
and the beginning of the whole section the lord was talking to Moses. so it doesn’t matter it’s still in the christian bible.
and the problem that i had wasn’t amen.
you’re right it said to cause a marrying womb AND barrenness, read the footnote.
so in context, those two things are not equal.
to cause a miscarrying womb after being with another man is abortion.
1) not wrong – Jews … 1) not wrong – Jews said AMEN – where do you think WE got it from?
2) Yes – she will have a miscarrying womb – in other words – she won’t be able to have children – she will be baron…
“but if you read numbers 5: 28 , if she is clean, she can have children. ” – If she is unclean – she will have a miscarrying womb, unable to have children – if not she will be able to have children. What part of this aren’t you getting?
sorry, i meant NOT … sorry, i meant NOT needed or required.
1.wrong, the full ritual is in the bible with the woman saying amen, amen at the end of it. 11-31
2. the footnote is explaining the ritual with it saying “cause” at the beginning. to cause a miscarriage is ABORTION.
and it’s funny, that you and the book said to cause but barrenness but if you read numbers 5: 28 , if she is clean, she can have children. so it has nothing to do with barrenness as we know to day…” not able to have children.”
Free – two issues … Free – two issues with your claim:
1) That is a Jewish ritual to prove a woman was undefiled.
2) The footnote reads: Or suffering; she will have barrenness and a miscarrying womb
Meaning she will not be able to bare children as verified by v28 – If, however, the woman has not defiled herself and is free from impurity, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.
You are wrong. Take the time to know God and you’ll understand the scriptures.
your bible is supports abortion
read numbers 5:17-28 a preacher gave a woman abortifacient to cause her to miscarry another man’s “baby” if infidelity happen and in the NIV it said that clearly at the bottom of page.
a woman has a civil and constitutional right by the 14th amendment’s liberty w/o due process to have a legal abortion for any reason.
Well I dont dont … Well I dont dont doubt you have answers (rationalizations) ,did i never hear or find any of these apologectics convincing , No.
I dont see why you would even what to rationalize genocide, slavery, infanticide.
In all my years as a christian and till today I have not come across satisfying answers.
So If you can be honest with yourself and still believe these are the word of perfect deity, I have no argument, your faith is self sealing.
@christoferL
Yes … @christoferL
Yes a good tree only bears good fruits.
And I dont see the bible’s instructions on how to keep slaves or how we should , treat women, those that worship other gods, as moral.
And certainly a deity that thinks the sun and stars came after the earth could not be anything more that the work of bronze age philosophers.
Read Gen Ch1 Duet ch13, Sam Ch15, 1Tim 2:12. Good pudding?
I’m glad you at … I’m glad you at least conceed that the bible was not the first to print what is in effect the Golden Rule.
My point was more that the good parts are not it’s own and that bad parts exist in it.
The bible is a poor moral compass. Why use it when you can make do without?
On the subject of abortion the group of cells are not alive in the way you want them to be until at least 25 weeks when the brain starts to form. It’s just a group of cells with no conscious.
This is a video to refute the claims made by atheist Youtuber, DavidJohnWells – the Bible IS against abortion! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q12TbKGTEoM
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
The Bible is …
The Bible is against abortion! You make a good video. Jerm 1:5 was a good quote. Also, in Luke 1:39-42 it shows that the spirit was in the child Jesus before he was born. The spirit enters a embryo at conception.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Charleston – do you …
Charleston – do you believe these are the pearls?
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Dont cast your …
Dont cast your pearls before these swine!
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
it’s still in the …
it’s still in the christian bible, duh.
that is what’s being implied in ritual, pregnancy.
how can some grains determine infidelity, anyways?
your bible is retarded.
i hope you seek real enlightenment.
bye.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Yes – she says AMen …
Yes – she says AMen because she is affirming that she agree with the ritual and the outcome… while you are reading the Christian Bible – it is not a Christian ritual – its Jewish.
to cause a miscarrying womb can only be abortion IF she was prego from the other man – otherwise – its just a sterilization.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
what i’m reading …
what i’m reading the NIV
and the woman in that ritual said amen, amen
in numbers 5:22 kjv and said amen, let it be in niv
and the beginning of the whole section the lord was talking to Moses. so it doesn’t matter it’s still in the christian bible.
and the problem that i had wasn’t amen.
you’re right it said to cause a marrying womb AND barrenness, read the footnote.
so in context, those two things are not equal.
to cause a miscarrying womb after being with another man is abortion.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
1) not wrong – Jews …
1) not wrong – Jews said AMEN – where do you think WE got it from?
2) Yes – she will have a miscarrying womb – in other words – she won’t be able to have children – she will be baron…
“but if you read numbers 5: 28 , if she is clean, she can have children. ” – If she is unclean – she will have a miscarrying womb, unable to have children – if not she will be able to have children. What part of this aren’t you getting?
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
sorry, i meant NOT …
sorry, i meant NOT needed or required.
1.wrong, the full ritual is in the bible with the woman saying amen, amen at the end of it. 11-31
2. the footnote is explaining the ritual with it saying “cause” at the beginning. to cause a miscarriage is ABORTION.
and it’s funny, that you and the book said to cause but barrenness but if you read numbers 5: 28 , if she is clean, she can have children. so it has nothing to do with barrenness as we know to day…” not able to have children.”
U R WRONG.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Free – two issues …
Free – two issues with your claim:
1) That is a Jewish ritual to prove a woman was undefiled.
2) The footnote reads: Or suffering; she will have barrenness and a miscarrying womb
Meaning she will not be able to bare children as verified by v28 – If, however, the woman has not defiled herself and is free from impurity, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.
You are wrong. Take the time to know God and you’ll understand the scriptures.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
THIS IS …
THIS IS BULLSHIT.
your bible is supports abortion
read numbers 5:17-28 a preacher gave a woman abortifacient to cause her to miscarry another man’s “baby” if infidelity happen and in the NIV it said that clearly at the bottom of page.
a woman has a civil and constitutional right by the 14th amendment’s liberty w/o due process to have a legal abortion for any reason.
your morality is needed or required.
so prove your god exists and your bible is truth.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Jesus Christ has …
Jesus Christ has returned. I AM.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Well I dont dont …
Well I dont dont doubt you have answers (rationalizations) ,did i never hear or find any of these apologectics convincing , No.
I dont see why you would even what to rationalize genocide, slavery, infanticide.
In all my years as a christian and till today I have not come across satisfying answers.
So If you can be honest with yourself and still believe these are the word of perfect deity, I have no argument, your faith is self sealing.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Should I explain …
Should I explain all these things to you? If I were to do this, would you accept the answers? No. I don’t think you would either.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
@christoferL
Yes …
@christoferL
Yes a good tree only bears good fruits.
And I dont see the bible’s instructions on how to keep slaves or how we should , treat women, those that worship other gods, as moral.
And certainly a deity that thinks the sun and stars came after the earth could not be anything more that the work of bronze age philosophers.
Read Gen Ch1 Duet ch13, Sam Ch15, 1Tim 2:12. Good pudding?
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Yes. All cells do.
Yes. All cells do.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
but those cells do …
but those cells do contain the DNA code right?
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Abortion up to that …
Abortion up to that point is like scratching the inside of your mouth which I think everyone has done at some point.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:10 pm
I’m glad you at …
I’m glad you at least conceed that the bible was not the first to print what is in effect the Golden Rule.
My point was more that the good parts are not it’s own and that bad parts exist in it.
The bible is a poor moral compass. Why use it when you can make do without?
On the subject of abortion the group of cells are not alive in the way you want them to be until at least 25 weeks when the brain starts to form. It’s just a group of cells with no conscious.