READ OVER HERE.
This isn’t an argument FOR abortion or AGAINST abortion. It’s an argument against the labels people put on themselves and their political opponents based on their opinions and how STUPID it all really is.
If we’re going to get into what I believe… since you asked so nicely… I believe a woman should have the right to choose, be it for whatever reason, especially rape victims. I don’t think this choice should be made lightly, nor do I think that removing the choice will take away the act. If abortion is made illegal, people are going to do it anyways, and it will be far more dangerous if the right people don’t do it.
What’s your opinion?
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wow, the truth is …
wow, the truth is revealed, you hate God, you know He exist and don’t like Him, please my friend look at your sins, the lies, the blasphemy, the anger and lust, and look to Christ, He died to save us from the just wrath of His Father, please repent of your sins, turn to Christ for your salvation and He will save you.
skoomie
i can …
skoomie
i can quote your fairy-tales verses all i want and in reality, you need to think for yourself: how can some herbs test infidelity, anyway? and even your bullshit NIV fairy-tales book said in it’s own footnotes ” to cause a miscarriage,” so what do you think that is in reality? ABORTION!
and your god/ his zombie jew son aka himself/ his angel didn’t stop his own from giving that woman an abortionifacients.
read your own bible and prove your god exists before you use the “god” card.
for one, you can’t …
for one, you can’t even quote scripture properly, please don’t deface the word of God just because you want it to say something it doesn’t, those verse say nothing about an abortion, it was about faithfulness in marriage, wow, for someone that doesn’t believe in “my” God, you sure got angry all of a sudden when I started quoting scripture, sorry, constitution is not above God’s law, one day you will give an account, Repent of your sin, and believe the Gospel of Christ
wish
you know that …
wish
you know that calling a fetus, a baby or child is emotional-vernacular language.
a fetus is not physical or biologically a baby or child.
i didn’t say a fetus wasn’t biologically human, it’s not legally a human.
to have rights and protection, you have to be an entity by oneself not biologically attach to someone else.
civil and constitutional rights would conflict with each other.
wish
“Also, …
wish
“Also, abortion puts many back into the rapists’ hands after “disposing of the evidence”.”
wow, that’s real stupid…since rape kits are done with dna not embryos, fetus, or babies.
the reasons for the abortions is irrelevant, since all abortions are supported by the constitution.
read NIV numbers 5:11-31 and in the footnote it said “to cause an miscarriage” that’s abortion. how the is a preacher going to test infidelity with some herbs, anyway? he’s giving her an abortion
wish
pro-choice …
wish
pro-choice people DON’T FORCE ABORTIONS, you implied that in you last comment.
no, abortion should be force on any women for any reason, that’s against women’s rights and everyone by 2010 knows exactly what their choices are.
and what poll are you using? i didn’t mention rape, i have the constitution on my side.
i don’t care what other rape victims who had abortion said, they don’t have the legal authority to stop other rape victims from having an abortion either.
wish
if you are …
wish
if you are against civil and constitutional rights of others, then you are a fascist.
i remember, only one person can own ONE set of kidneys, so where is this “we” coming from?
did you donate your kidney to save a life, yet? no, so who are you to be a fascist to and want to force a woman to stay pregnant against her will and to be a slave to a unwanted fetus and to your morality? which is against the 13th and 14th amendment of the us constitution.
i dare you to read them.
skoomie
yeah, you …
skoomie
yeah, you do know that constitution is not the bible, right?
and tell that verse the people who were slaughtered in 2kings:15,16 and the preacher that gave a woman abortifacient in numbers 5:11-31.
so i suggest you stop quote mining the bible and to prove your god exists and your bible is true BEFORE you use it in any debate.
to the 14th amendment of the us constitution: personhood: born or naturalize.
no birth= no personhood= no rights to live.
This is too much of …
This is too much of a personal issue for bodies of government, utter strangers, or ANYONE who is NOT pregnant to decide what should happen.
Abortion is a traumatic experience, let’s not kid ourselves, but women must still have the option. If you disagree with the procedure, then do not have an abortion. If you believe it is the right choice for YOU, then go through with it.
We dont need to agree, just EMPATHISE.
Fetus = “young one” …
Fetus = “young one”
Baby = “young child”
Child = “any person or thing regarded as the product or result of particular agencies, influences, etc”, “a human fetus” & “an unborn or recently born person”
A fetus is the product of sexual intercourse
Person = “human being”
Louis Pasteur’s Law of Biogenesis says that a species can only procreate after it’s own kind.
In other words, a fetus of humans is also human.
In other words, “fetus”, “baby”, & “child” are 3 different words for the same creature
I don’t see where …
I don’t see where it says anything about abortion there. However, these passages do tell how it’s a sin:
Leviticus 18:21; 20:1-5
Deuteronomy 12:31
Amos 1:13
1 Kings 11:7
2 Kings 21:2-6
Jeremiah 7:30-34; 15:3-4; 19:5; 32:35
Ezekiel 16:20-21, 36-38; 20:31
Please stop using …
Please stop using rape victims for your advocacy. See the Ad Hoc Committee of Women Pregnant by Sexual Assault. They don’t like being used for other people’s campaigns.
Furthermore, most rape victims who have had abortions say that it was like a second rape, which traumatized them more than the first did.
Also, abortion puts many back into the rapists’ hands after “disposing of the evidence”.
Moreover, rape victims are less than 1% of abortions, according the Guttmacher Institute.
We’re neither …
We’re neither fascist nor hypocrites. Who said that we don’t donate kidneys to save lives? I can’t because of a disease I have that taints my blood, but I know plenty of pro-lifers who would.
Most of the time, women don’t choose abortion, it’s chosen for them. In polls, 64% of post-abortive women have said that they were forced into it, like my aunt was. 80-90% say that they were not given enough information to make an informed choice. To me, that’s not really a choice at all.
how is a fetus not …
how is a fetus not a person. Psalm 139:13
“For it was You who created my inward parts; You knit me together in my mother’s womb.”… from the time the egg is fertilized we are a human. We are created that way by God. Personhood doesn’t depend on whether we are in the womb or out of it. The heart starts beating a few weeks after fertilization. What makes the fetus NOT a person with legal rights to be alive??
wish
pro-life= …
wish
pro-life= pro-life fascist hypocrisy.
no deserves to be force to stay pregnant against your will, civil and constitutional rights because someone else’s non-legal and unconstitutional morality and opinion of life and responsibility of others.
when none of you people, will donate you kidney to a save a life of a dying dialysis patient.
the women chooses abortion, so there are no rights being taken away,
so please stop being intellectually dishonest and stop listening to propaganda.
skoomis
damn, …
skoomis
damn, don’t be stupid.
a woman has a civil and constitutional right to have a legal abortion for any reason she chooses.
you need to know the actual definition of murder: the “UNLAWFUL KILLING” of a human being w/ intent, a fetus is not legal person or legally a human being, abortion is ALREADY LEGAL. abortion is not murder.
a fetus since not a legal person has no right to live inside a woman against her will.
you can’t kill homeless people because they are still citizens= murder.
orphanages, rape?? …
orphanages, rape?? again I say what is it? it is a baby, human LIFE…. we shouldn’t do one bad thing (murder a baby) because something else bad happens (rape), yes it is a horrible crime, but the baby had nothing to do with it, and the comment on orphanages is just ridiculous… “let’s kill the baby because orphanages are full”, that is just crazy, why don’t you use that logic to kill homeless because some shelters are already full?
Ha this kid is …
Ha this kid is hilarious and soooo right on that issue. It is true that many people that call themselves pro life are in actuality promoters of necessary war and the death penalty. Trust me I know I live with a few. In fact they are republican christians.
you are lucky to be …
you are lucky to be alive. your mom could have aborted you very easily. how about anti-abortion. or anti- innocent child murder. most people like you hate their lives. I will pray for u.
i love how this is …
i love how this is considered a “woman’s rights” issue
anti-choice? really …
anti-choice? really?…
im gonna hold my tongue on this one
The orphanages are …
The orphanages are already full, and it takes years for a family to be able to adopt the baby. And, if you’re a female, if someone raped you, would you want to bear that child? Or even if you did, wouldn’t you sympathize with people who were in the same position as you?
lollll. did god …
lollll. did god tell you that? oorrr did you just kinda make that up as you went along?
Way to go Tyler. …
Way to go Tyler. You just exposed their pro-life hypocrisy! OWNED!
I’m anti abortion …
I’m anti abortion and anti death penalty, but were would we be if we didn’t kill animals and defend our country and other in war? Also how close are the unborn to death row inmates or say, a herd of cattle?