OK, I have been trying to think of ONE good argument for abortion, and keep coming up empty. Maybe someone here can help me out. Of course, all of the following arguments assume the woman was not raped, and that her life is not being threatened by having the baby. However, I have seen statistics showing that rape victims are only 1% of all abortions, so ending 99% of abortions would be OK with me.
1.A woman should be able to do what she wants with her body.
-Of COURSE she should! No one is telling her not to get plastic surgery, or a tattoo. However, once she decides to have sex, and get pregnant, she has ANOTHER body growing inside of her. It is no longer her body, it is her child’s body, and she should not be able to end its life any more than a mother can kill her 3 year old.
2. People are going to do it anyway, so we might as well make it legal, and safe.
-Well, people smoke crack, and it’s illegal. People rape, people murder, people steal, and those are all illegal. Should we legalize all of those, too?
3. These are new times. Making abortion illegal brings us back to a time where women had no rights.
-Wrong. Abortion gives a woman MORE rights than a man. She has the right to kill the child, whether the man agrees or not. In order for us to be equal, men should also be allowed to abort the baby, even if against the mother’s wishes. This, of course, is absurd, and so is the argument.
4. You can’t force them to be pregnant if they don’t want to be.
-Please. If you don’t want to get pregnant, don’t have sex. I think even animals have figured this one out, but yet humans just can’t slip their mind around it. Do women just think that a “baby fairy” makes them pregnant? I may not know everything, but I know it is VERY hard to get pregnant without having sex.
I’m not close-minded, and I have changed my mind on many subjects. I may even change my mind on this one, if I could ever hear a good argument. But none so far. So, are there ANY good arguments for abortion?
I am neither pro-life or pro choice. I think abortion is morally wrong, but support an exception for the mother’s life, of course.
I find arguments that these babies will be unwanted anyway to be horrific. Many people in society are unwanted, and we don’t advocate terminating them.
I say, if a fetus is viable, take it out and give it what it needs to live.
The only argument I can see for legalized abortion of non-viable fetuses is that our society is not prepared to do what would be necessary to fully enforce the law, and should not do so. What happens if a law is passed making abortion murder, and a woman announces that she will leave the state (or the country) to have an abortion? Wouldn’t we have to lock her up in preventive detention so she doesn’t do it? We wouldn’t let any other prospective murderer out of our sight, or out of police custody, if they announced a specific plan to kill.
So I think we need to educate people and change minds, but I can’t see how it can be illegal in all cases.
My logic may be flawed, but I took a shot.
PS The argument that a fertilized egg is not human is laughable on its face. A mere "clump of cells" will not grow into you or me. A fertilized egg has all the genetic information to make it a distinct human being. Modern science teaches this, even though the embryo looks nothing like a human – it’s microscopic.
I get a chuckle out of many of the same folks making these ridiculous arguments saying that the religious right "ignores science."
You’re a good argument for abortion….lol
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I am with you 100% all the way my friend.
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I don’t argue in favor of abortion; I argue against the government’s right to intervene.
And I have one really great argument about that: My body. There is nothing else on the planet that the government can force someone to do with their own body. Why should the government be allowed to force a woman to incubate a fetus and give birth to it?
Not one person has ever been able to give me Constitutional support – and that’s why abortion is legal. Because the government knows it doesn’t have that power.
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Nope. Just the usual rape and incest red herrings. And I agree with you, that if only those women were choosing abortion, it would be a non-issue.
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Lame Duck, if the government can punish people for ingesting heroin, crack or pot, they can punish a doctor for abortion.
in 1989 there were 5 Billion people on the Earth.
Now, there are over 6.5 Billion. At this rate, there will be nothing left to share.
http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html
1. It’s HER BODY. Do you want some government flunky making decisions of this magnitude for YOU?
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I’m more concerned with your allowing abortions in cases of rape.
If you have concern for the fetus, why would you kill it just because it is the result of a rape. The fetus didn’t do anything wrong.
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Do you support birth control (ie the pill). If so, you ought to revise your thinking. Chemical forms of birth control are exactly the same thing as early-term abortions.
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King Solomon wrote: "Better is the end than the beginning." "Better is the day of ones death than his birth"
Ecclesiastes 7: 8 & 1
Go big Red Go
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the easiest way to put it is ,a woman has the right to do with her body as she sees fit….not the government or the church has the right to dictate what you should or should not do with your own body……………
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Yes…exception should be made when liberals want to kill their yet unborn offspring. In the long run this would be good for America.
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There is no good arguement for abortion.
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I think the only time abortion should be legal is if it proves to be a danger to the mother’s life.
Example. If a mother of 2 becomes pregnant and it shows carrying to full term would endanger her life, I think an abortion here could be considered. No need to orphan two children and have them go through the pain of that.
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I am neither pro-life or pro choice. I think abortion is morally wrong, but support an exception for the mother’s life, of course.
I find arguments that these babies will be unwanted anyway to be horrific. Many people in society are unwanted, and we don’t advocate terminating them.
I say, if a fetus is viable, take it out and give it what it needs to live.
The only argument I can see for legalized abortion of non-viable fetuses is that our society is not prepared to do what would be necessary to fully enforce the law, and should not do so. What happens if a law is passed making abortion murder, and a woman announces that she will leave the state (or the country) to have an abortion? Wouldn’t we have to lock her up in preventive detention so she doesn’t do it? We wouldn’t let any other prospective murderer out of our sight, or out of police custody, if they announced a specific plan to kill.
So I think we need to educate people and change minds, but I can’t see how it can be illegal in all cases.
My logic may be flawed, but I took a shot.
PS The argument that a fertilized egg is not human is laughable on its face. A mere "clump of cells" will not grow into you or me. A fertilized egg has all the genetic information to make it a distinct human being. Modern science teaches this, even though the embryo looks nothing like a human – it’s microscopic.
I get a chuckle out of many of the same folks making these ridiculous arguments saying that the religious right "ignores science."
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I am anti-abortion in most cases but there are 2 arguments when I understand the issue:
1. Life of the mother is at risk during pregnancy. If neither the baby nor the mom can survive, which does happen then I believe in the choice.
2. The baby is going to be born post natal with horrible disease. I am not talking about selective breeding where you pick only perfect babies. I’m talking about children who are going to be born with life spans of days or months or are going to be crippled/impaired beyond what science and medicine can help.
other than that I can’t justify
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It is about keeping the government outside of our body. If the government gets to legislate what women do with their reproductive systems, and what we all get to put in our lungs, what keeps them from owning us. The government belongs outside of the body and inside of the borders. Make your government stop the genocide in Iraq and teach women how to take care of their bodies. In a more educated world, the fascists in Pennsylvania Ave will kill no foreigners and women will be able to choose if and when to become pregnant.
As for abortion itself, nobody knows the horror of abortion more than the woman who makes the difficult decision. I have seen it a few times and it hurts, this women hurt. But it can be said that their lives and that of a future child are all the better for it.
Sorry, but rationality outweighs fundamentalist doctrines.
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To a certain extent, I agree with you. But there are so many different reasons why a woman has an abortion that it is hard to make an across the board ruling. Maybe carrying a pregnancy to term might not kill her but would be extremely difficult or dangerous. Maybe she is in a situation where carrying the baby to term would put her in an impossible situation, either socially or employment wise. Maybe she can’t afford to have another child but doesn’t feel she can handle giving the baby up for adoption. Maybe she took all the precautions and still ended up pregnant.
It’s a very difficult choice to have to make and I don’t feel that other people should tell them what they have to do.
The main thing I object to is the use of abortion as birth control. I feel you can have one abortion, but if you have a second, you should be required to have your tubes tied.
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Well, there’s one that you’re ignoring, as it makes all arguments against the right to choose go away. A fetus is not a baby. Its a fetus. It is a mass of cells, not a human being. It is simply a potential human being. So it is still a part of the woman’s body, whether you like it or not.
However, many people either disagree with this, or consider it to be a matter of opinion. There really is no way of settling it one way or the other. Obviously you have already made up your mind on this, so you’re not open to seeing it as a good argument. Which is a pretty good definition of being close-minded, which you deny. So there was really no purpose in you posting this question.
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But an embryo is not yet a baby, it is not viable outside of the body.
I agree that with all of the info out there about birth control that there really is no excuse for unwanted pregnancies, but we Know that not everybody makes smart, responsible decisions. People who are unable to make smart decisions don’t need to be raising children anyway, but I know that is not how most people believe. Without abortion our already overburdened social services system would have to be stretched further, prolifers ought to be out there adopting all the children they can manage.
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I would have to say rape.
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I’m not sure if there is a good argument. This is a tough one, I can see both sides. On one side you may have a family or a teenage girl that simply can not afford a child and this is the best answer for them because they are thinking about what kind of life the baby would have. (and precautions should have been taken but many times they are not)
Then you have the baby who has no choice at all.
This is a hard topic……………….
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what if a woman was raped and become pregnant by her rapist? or what if a woman’s father/brother/uncle forced themselves on her?
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Why ask the question if you don’t really want anyone to respond…. but I will anyway-
Obviously I believe in abortion for what you mentioned, rape, incest, mother’s health, etc….
but also because I believe outlawing abortion is not going to make that mother care about that baby- if you force woman to have babies that don’t want them there are going to be more babies born with HIV, Neonatal Herpes, FAS (fetal alcohol syndrome), amongst other major diseases and viruses- more babies born drug addicted, more babies thrown in dumpsters, off bridges, thrown in the garbage, and where the mother actually kills the baby -I would 10x rather see a fetus aborted at 12 weeks than see a newborn baby brought into this world only to suffer, and possibly die. Not everybody in this world is sane, there are some crazy people in this world, and it’s just a part of life, living people- all different types- not everybody is going to be good, not everybody is going to care- it’s just a fact of life that there are evil people, people that don’t think, people that don’t care, people that obviously have mental issues, and unfortunately sometimes the lesser of the two evils is better- let someone abort a fetus or have a newborn baby come into this world only to suffer and die. I care more about the newborn baby
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Note to firstythirsty: << Do you support birth control (ie the pill). If so, you ought to revise your thinking. Chemical forms of birth control are exactly the same thing as early-term abortions. >>
Sorry – the Pill prevents conception; it is not the same as abortion.
Regarding the inability to support 6.5 billion people… Just as a point of reference, if you took Texas and divided it evenly among 6.5 billion people, you’d get 1144 square feet apiece (almost 34 feet square). That’s not overcrowding, nor is it indicative of [our] having enough to share or go around.
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I’m kind of curious as to why so many people on the "pro life" side of the issue are willing to make an exception in the case of rape. If, as they say, the fetus is a human life from conception then is it any less so because of the way it was conceived, is it any less innocent? They apparently understand that there are circumstances where the mother has to decide whether or not to continue the pregnancy. In that case the sanctity of life issue flies out the window and it becomes a matter of the pro life group simply dictating ahead of time the circumstances where a woman can have an abortion.
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